Comments on: English 8 summer reading - Pericles responses http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/ Just another Henricoenglish.com Blogs weblog Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:44:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Bradley C http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-731 Bradley C Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:44:13 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-731 Bradley Covington Selection 1: Pericles' Funeral Oration 1.) One of the basic ideas is mentioned in the beginning of the speech where Pericles explains that the "reputations of many brave men" should "not be imperiled in the mouth of a single individual" The basic idea is that as the speaker of the oration, he is given the impossible task of satisfying the associates of the dead, who would want their deeds to be magnified, while everyone else might feel envious and presume exaggeration. Then Pericles skips over the great martial achievements of Athens' past: "That part of our history which tells of the military achievements which gave us our several possessions, or of the ready valor with which either we or our fathers stemmed the tide of Hellenic or foreign aggression, is a theme too familiar to my hearers for me to dwell upon, and I shall therefore pass it by." The basic idea is the great achievements of Athens were very important and he wanted to remind the audience of them. However, instead, he focuses on "the road by which we reached our position, the form of government under which our greatness grew, and the national habits out of which it sprang". This is the basic idea that they should look at how they got to where they are and that they should continue to go in that direction. Then Pericles moves to the idea of “equal justice under law”. "If we look to the laws, they afford equal justice to all in their private differences…if a man is able to serve the state, he is not hindered by the obscurity of his condition. The freedom we enjoy in our government extends also to our ordinary life. There, far from exercising a jealous surveillance over each other, we do not feel called upon to be angry with our neighbour for doing what he likes..." The idea that Pericles is trying 2 explain is that all people whether they work for the government or not, should get equal justice. Then the content of his speech turns towards Athens’ foreign policy: "We throw open our city to the world, and never by alien acts exclude foreigners from any opportunity of learning or observing, although the eyes of an enemy may occasionally profit by our liberality..." He is explaining the idea that all people whether they are foreign or not should get the same opportunities. Pericles then turns to the audience, "So died these men as becomes Athenians. You, their survivors, must determine to have as unfaltering a resolution in the field, though you may pray that it may have a happier outcome." The idea that Pericles is trying to explain is that the Athenian people need to live up to the standards set by the slain. 2.) This speech can definitely relate to the modern day United States of America. Some of the ideas Pericles mentioned in the speech are actually used in the United States. For example, when he talks about equal justice under law that applies in the U.S. as well. Also, in the United States, we honor our fallen soldiers with speeches given just as Pericles did. We bury our dead soldiers in special ways just as the Athenians did and in the United States, we also focus on, “the road by which we reached our position, the form of government under which our greatness grew, and the national habits out of which it sprang" just as Pericles wants the Athenian people to do this. 3.) Pericles is asking that each Athenian citizen to live up to the standards set by the deceased, "So died these men as becomes Athenians. You, their survivors, must determine to have as unfaltering a resolution in the field, though you may pray that it may have a happier issue." He wants the Athenian people to carry on the tradition of fighting for what they believe in. Pericles is asking them to be brave just as their ancestors have even though they would all rather it have a better result. Pericles is also asking the Athenian citizens to carry out the lifestyle they have lived and for that to never change. Bradley Covington
Selection 1: Pericles’ Funeral Oration
1.) One of the basic ideas is mentioned in the beginning of the speech where Pericles explains that the “reputations of many brave men” should “not be imperiled in the mouth of a single individual” The basic idea is that as the speaker of the oration, he is given the impossible task of satisfying the associates of the dead, who would want their deeds to be magnified, while everyone else might feel envious and presume exaggeration. Then Pericles skips over the great martial achievements of Athens’ past: “That part of our history which tells of the military achievements which gave us our several possessions, or of the ready valor with which either we or our fathers stemmed the tide of Hellenic or foreign aggression, is a theme too familiar to my hearers for me to dwell upon, and I shall therefore pass it by.” The basic idea is the great achievements of Athens were very important and he wanted to remind the audience of them. However, instead, he focuses on “the road by which we reached our position, the form of government under which our greatness grew, and the national habits out of which it sprang”. This is the basic idea that they should look at how they got to where they are and that they should continue to go in that direction. Then Pericles moves to the idea of “equal justice under law”. “If we look to the laws, they afford equal justice to all in their private differences…if a man is able to serve the state, he is not hindered by the obscurity of his condition. The freedom we enjoy in our government extends also to our ordinary life. There, far from exercising a jealous surveillance over each other, we do not feel called upon to be angry with our neighbour for doing what he likes…” The idea that Pericles is trying 2 explain is that all people whether they work for the government or not, should get equal justice. Then the content of his speech turns towards Athens’ foreign policy: “We throw open our city to the world, and never by alien acts exclude foreigners from any opportunity of learning or observing, although the eyes of an enemy may occasionally profit by our liberality…” He is explaining the idea that all people whether they are foreign or not should get the same opportunities. Pericles then turns to the audience, “So died these men as becomes Athenians. You, their survivors, must determine to have as unfaltering a resolution in the field, though you may pray that it may have a happier outcome.” The idea that Pericles is trying to explain is that the Athenian people need to live up to the standards set by the slain.
2.) This speech can definitely relate to the modern day United States of America. Some of the ideas Pericles mentioned in the speech are actually used in the United States. For example, when he talks about equal justice under law that applies in the U.S. as well. Also, in the United States, we honor our fallen soldiers with speeches given just as Pericles did. We bury our dead soldiers in special ways just as the Athenians did and in the United States, we also focus on, “the road by which we reached our position, the form of government under which our greatness grew, and the national habits out of which it sprang” just as Pericles wants the Athenian people to do this.
3.) Pericles is asking that each Athenian citizen to live up to the standards set by the deceased, “So died these men as becomes Athenians. You, their survivors, must determine to have as unfaltering a resolution in the field, though you may pray that it may have a happier issue.” He wants the Athenian people to carry on the tradition of fighting for what they believe in. Pericles is asking them to be brave just as their ancestors have even though they would all rather it have a better result. Pericles is also asking the Athenian citizens to carry out the lifestyle they have lived and for that to never change.

]]> By: matt d. http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-729 matt d. Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:18:23 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-729 1. I believe one of the main reasons pericles gave this speech was to sort of, "rally the troops," so to speak. He said it to illustrate Atheinian power and rule. Pericles begins by assuring the crowd that the speech shouldn't, and will not be about Pericles himself. It is to be about the courage of the Athenian soldiers and their sacrifice. After that, he swiftly transitions to praising the Athenian founding fathers and praises them for their unique government at a time where democracy was an example government to other civilizations. After this, he talks about the Athenian lifestyle, which is also unique because unlike a communistic society, they have rewards for fairness and good deeds. Also, he says that the rich and poor are equal in reward and punishment. He then continues to talk about Athenian lifestyle, and he says that instead of rigorous work all the time, the Athenians enjoy life. Then Pericles states that because of this balanced lifestyle they have gained allies to help them defeat the spartans. After he had instilled a feeling of national pride into his listeners, he claims that he has spoken of the previous greatness and success to remind the listeners of why their loved ones are fighting. By saying this, he has transformed the dead soldiers into fighting to preserve the Athenian lifestyle itself, instead of fighting to win the war. The end of the speech is a call to duty. The people are told to carry on with life as best they can, and the brothers of dead soldiers are encouraged to carry on the fight. To complete the speech, Pericles states an epilogue, when he reminds those listening how difficult it is to speak over the dead. In the end, Pericles brilliantly turned the speech from just remembering the dead, to a call to continue the war until an ultimate victory is accomplished. 2. There are many comparisons to modern day United States. One of these comparisons is that modern US citizens are not all working for the greater good of the country, but Atenian citizens back then were working to better themselves as a whole. Also a comparison between the speech and modern US is that during his speech, he had many listeners who truley cared and looked to him to tell them what to do, if the president told USA citizens what to do, most likely only 3/4 would do it and others who didn't care or were rebellious wouldn't even pay attention. The final comparison I could think of was that in the speech, he spoke to the listeners about continueing the war, even though the odds were against them, and the Athenians did just that. in modern day USA, there would have been many disagreements and people would have wanted to end the war, just like with the war on terron in Iraq. Back then, the people trusted Pericles and gave him respect and did as they were told. 3. It was very clear what Pericles was asking of each Athenian citizen. He asked the citizens to go back to their lives as normal if they were greiveing the loss of a loved one. Also, he asked the sons and brothers of soldiers who had died in the war to join the fight themselves and help the Athenian army defeat the powerful Spartans. The main thing he asked of the citizens was to remain calm and do their daily jobs as normal and remain a role model society under unique circumstances. 1. I believe one of the main reasons pericles gave this speech was to sort of, “rally the troops,” so to speak. He said it to illustrate Atheinian power and rule. Pericles begins by assuring the crowd that the speech shouldn’t, and will not be about Pericles himself. It is to be about the courage of the Athenian soldiers and their sacrifice. After that, he swiftly transitions to praising the Athenian founding fathers and praises them for their unique government at a time where democracy was an example government to other civilizations. After this, he talks about the Athenian lifestyle, which is also unique because unlike a communistic society, they have rewards for fairness and good deeds. Also, he says that the rich and poor are equal in reward and punishment. He then continues to talk about Athenian lifestyle, and he says that instead of rigorous work all the time, the Athenians enjoy life. Then Pericles states that because of this balanced lifestyle they have gained allies to help them defeat the spartans. After he had instilled a feeling of national pride into his listeners, he claims that he has spoken of the previous greatness and success to remind the listeners of why their loved ones are fighting. By saying this, he has transformed the dead soldiers into fighting to preserve the Athenian lifestyle itself, instead of fighting to win the war. The end of the speech is a call to duty. The people are told to carry on with life as best they can, and the brothers of dead soldiers are encouraged to carry on the fight. To complete the speech, Pericles states an epilogue, when he reminds those listening how difficult it is to speak over the dead. In the end, Pericles brilliantly turned the speech from just remembering the dead, to a call to continue the war until an ultimate victory is accomplished.

2. There are many comparisons to modern day United States. One of these comparisons is that modern US citizens are not all working for the greater good of the country, but Atenian citizens back then were working to better themselves as a whole. Also a comparison between the speech and modern US is that during his speech, he had many listeners who truley cared and looked to him to tell them what to do, if the president told USA citizens what to do, most likely only 3/4 would do it and others who didn’t care or were rebellious wouldn’t even pay attention. The final comparison I could think of was that in the speech, he spoke to the listeners about continueing the war, even though the odds were against them, and the Athenians did just that. in modern day USA, there would have been many disagreements and people would have wanted to end the war, just like with the war on terron in Iraq. Back then, the people trusted Pericles and gave him respect and did as they were told.

3. It was very clear what Pericles was asking of each Athenian citizen. He asked the citizens to go back to their lives as normal if they were greiveing the loss of a loved one. Also, he asked the sons and brothers of soldiers who had died in the war to join the fight themselves and help the Athenian army defeat the powerful Spartans. The main thing he asked of the citizens was to remain calm and do their daily jobs as normal and remain a role model society under unique circumstances.

]]> By: Chandler K http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-728 Chandler K Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:01:42 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-728 Pericles #1 I think the basic ideas of the speech is that Pericles gives an annual public funeral for the Athenian citizens who have gone down fighting for their country. He gives an emotional speech each year honoring the brave Athenians who have given their lives for their democracy. There is always a big gathering at the funeral because there are more lives lost each year and the villagers respect and honor those who have fought for their freedom. Pericles #2 I can compare Pericles’ speech to modern day society and the Iraq war. Pericles is commemorating those who had sacrificed their lives to protect their country and protect the freedom of its people. He speaks of the soldiers so committed to their country that they “choose to die resisting, rather than live submitting.” It is the same situation we are in today. The comparisons are that we are still at war; we still have people dying for our country. When Pericles wrote this speech, the Athenian government was a democracy just as ours is too. Pericles #3 I feel that Pericles is asking the families and citizens of Athens not to feel down, sad or miserable for their deceased loved ones, but rather feel honored and proud of them. He says to remember that it is “by courage, sense of duty and a keen feeling of honour in action that men were enabled to win all this.” If you think about it, I am sure you would rather die honoring your friends, family and country rather than die without fulfilling a greater purpose. Pericles #1
I think the basic ideas of the speech is that Pericles gives an annual public funeral for the Athenian citizens who have gone down fighting for their country. He gives an emotional speech each year honoring the brave Athenians who have given their lives for their democracy. There is always a big gathering at the funeral because there are more lives lost each year and the villagers respect and honor those who have fought for their freedom.

Pericles #2
I can compare Pericles’ speech to modern day society and the Iraq war. Pericles is commemorating those who had sacrificed their lives to protect their country and protect the freedom of its people. He speaks of the soldiers so committed to their country that they “choose to die resisting, rather than live submitting.” It is the same situation we are in today. The comparisons are that we are still at war; we still have people dying for our country. When Pericles wrote this speech, the Athenian government was a democracy just as ours is too.

Pericles #3
I feel that Pericles is asking the families and citizens of Athens not to feel down, sad or miserable for their deceased loved ones, but rather feel honored and proud of them. He says to remember that it is “by courage, sense of duty and a keen feeling of honour in action that men were enabled to win all this.” If you think about it, I am sure you would rather die honoring your friends, family and country rather than die without fulfilling a greater purpose.

]]> By: Taylor P. http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-726 Taylor P. Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:53:20 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-726 1. Summarize the basic ideas. -Democracy is extremely important. According to the Athenians, an overall good community is a democratic society where each citizen can live a good, happy life. -Freedom is a big part of Pericles' Funeral Oration Speech. The legal restrictions on what Athenian citizens must do are very few. -Another one of Pericles' points in his speech was to appreciate and love all the beautiful things found in the Athenian culture. -Also, a huge part of the speech was celebrating the fallen heros. Pericles' strongly believed that all Athenian citizens should honor and truly appreciate all of the soldiers that gave their lives for the citizens to be happy. 2. Both Pericles' speech and the modern day U.S. promote democracy. In his speech, Pericles was expressing to the citizens that everyone should be equal, and the people should have a part in decision making. It is much like that today, where everyone is mostly treated equally, and big decisions, such as electing president, are made by voting of the people. Another similarity between the modern day U.S. and Pericles' speech is both are celebrating fallen heros. Pericles was asking each citizen to honor everyone who died for them, everyone who gave their lives for the better good of each and every citizen. Today, we continue to honor and appreciate all the courageous soldiers who have died fighting for us. Also during Pericles speech and today, we were and are at war. The last thing is Pericles gave his speech once a year. And we celebrate our independence and all of the brave fallen soldiers once a year with holidays such as Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and Independence Day. 3. I believe that there are four important things Pericles is asking each Athenian citizen. First, he is asking to always remember thos fallen before us. To always honor the men and women who have died for our country. Next, he is asking to be a model citizen for others. To always do whar is right and show others what is right. Then, Pericles is asking for the citizens to have more children so Athens can grow and become a stronger community. Last, we have a responsibility to continue what our ancestors have died for and done to help us. 1. Summarize the basic ideas.
-Democracy is extremely important. According to the Athenians, an overall good community is a democratic society where each citizen can live a good, happy life.
-Freedom is a big part of Pericles’ Funeral Oration Speech. The legal restrictions on what Athenian citizens must do are very few.
-Another one of Pericles’ points in his speech was to appreciate and love all the beautiful things found in the Athenian culture.
-Also, a huge part of the speech was celebrating the fallen heros. Pericles’ strongly believed that all Athenian citizens should honor and truly appreciate all of the soldiers that gave their lives for the citizens to be happy.

2. Both Pericles’ speech and the modern day U.S. promote democracy. In his speech, Pericles was expressing to the citizens that everyone should be equal, and the people should have a part in decision making. It is much like that today, where everyone is mostly treated equally, and big decisions, such as electing president, are made by voting of the people.
Another similarity between the modern day U.S. and Pericles’ speech is both are celebrating fallen heros. Pericles was asking each citizen to honor everyone who died for them, everyone who gave their lives for the better good of each and every citizen. Today, we continue to honor and appreciate all the courageous soldiers who have died fighting for us. Also during Pericles speech and today, we were and are at war.
The last thing is Pericles gave his speech once a year. And we celebrate our independence and all of the brave fallen soldiers once a year with holidays such as Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and Independence Day.

3. I believe that there are four important things Pericles is asking each Athenian citizen.
First, he is asking to always remember thos fallen before us. To always honor the men and women who have died for our country. Next, he is asking to be a model citizen for others. To always do whar is right and show others what is right.
Then, Pericles is asking for the citizens to have more children so Athens can grow and become a stronger community.
Last, we have a responsibility to continue what our ancestors have died for and done to help us.

]]> By: Kelsey K http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-723 Kelsey K Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:23:46 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-723 1. In his speech, Pericles wants to honor those that died defending Athens. He talks about how great Athens and those that live there have become. He tells us of the glory of Athens. His speech makes all Athenians very proud. He tells them that those who died, did so for Athens and its honor. 2. To compare this speech to modern day, it would be very difficult without some disaster or attack on our country to get Americans to feel the pride Athenians were feeling after Pericles' speech. If President Obama were to attempt a similar speech with regard to the War on Terrorism, the media and those against the war would not be supportive. When Pericles made this speech to the Athenians, he succeeded and gained the support of Athenians. 3. Pericles' challenges each of the Athenian citizen to find a way to connect with these values that make Athens strong. In remembering those that have given their lives for Athens' greatness, he urges all to focus on being a citizen rather than being an individual. He says, "it is the love of honour that never grows old" as a reminder to all that they should honor those that had died fighting for Athens. He wants those who can to have more children to help forget those who have been lost but also to help Athens have reinforcements and security in the future. Pericles wants the Athenians to put Athens and its future as their number one priority. 1. In his speech, Pericles wants to honor those that died defending Athens. He talks about how great Athens and those that live there have become. He tells us of the glory of Athens. His speech makes all Athenians very proud. He tells them that those who died, did so for Athens and its honor.

2. To compare this speech to modern day, it would be very difficult without some disaster or attack on our country to get Americans to feel the pride Athenians were feeling after Pericles’ speech. If President Obama were to attempt a similar speech with regard to the War on Terrorism, the media and those against the war would not be supportive. When Pericles made this speech to the Athenians, he succeeded and gained the support of Athenians.

3. Pericles’ challenges each of the Athenian citizen to find a way to connect with these values that make Athens strong. In remembering those that have given their lives for Athens’ greatness, he urges all to focus on being a citizen rather than being an individual. He says, “it is the love of honour that never grows old” as a reminder to all that they should honor those that had died fighting for Athens. He wants those who can to have more children to help forget those who have been lost but also to help Athens have reinforcements and security in the future. Pericles wants the Athenians to put Athens and its future as their number one priority.

]]> By: Michael S http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-722 Michael S Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:40:35 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-722 1. The basic ideas of Pericles’ Funeral Oration: respect of dead (p.1&5) Praise of ancestors (p.2) Open arms towards foreigners (p.3) Equal rights for everyone (p.3) Greatness of Athens (p.3) Honor of fallen (p.5-7) 2. Comparisons of Pericles’ Funeral Oration to modern U.S. In the modern U.S. are country is open to any foreigners as long as the meet legal standards i.e. (not carrying diseases, not a terrorist, ext.) Also the U.S. honors the dead with proper burials and ceremonies. We also respect our ancestors by building statues and monuments in their honor. We also have equal rights for all legal citizens. We honor the fallen of war with special graves and ceremonies for just the fallen of war who are always regarded as heroes. 3. Pericles is asking that every Athenian pay there respects to those that have died and the family’s of the deceased. And that they should honor them. And to teach them that these men have not died in vain. 1. The basic ideas of Pericles’ Funeral Oration: respect of dead (p.1&5) Praise of ancestors (p.2) Open arms towards foreigners (p.3) Equal rights for everyone (p.3) Greatness of Athens (p.3) Honor of fallen (p.5-7)

2. Comparisons of Pericles’ Funeral Oration to modern U.S. In the modern U.S. are country is open to any foreigners as long as the meet legal standards i.e. (not carrying diseases, not a terrorist, ext.) Also the U.S. honors the dead with proper burials and ceremonies. We also respect our ancestors by building statues and monuments in their honor. We also have equal rights for all legal citizens. We honor the fallen of war with special graves and ceremonies for just the fallen of war who are always regarded as heroes.

3. Pericles is asking that every Athenian pay there respects to those that have died and the family’s of the deceased. And that they should honor them. And to teach them that these men have not died in vain.

]]> By: Natalie S http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-719 Natalie S Sun, 06 Sep 2009 04:07:39 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-719 Pericles’ Funeral Oration 1. In 431, Pericles’ gave his famous funereral oration after the Peloponnesian War had started against the Spartans. In his funeral oration, Pericles’ talks a lot about respecting and remembering the people that had died for Athens to survive. He states that it is the law to honor and appreciate these soldiers that have died for the citizens of Athens. He then goes into how the democratic constitution will benefit the Athenians, and how it will help them live better, free lives. He puts in that their country’s laws do not copy neighboring countries, but sets an example for them. Pericles goes into how freedom lets citizens do almost whatever they like. Also, he talks about how all Athenians should love their country more than anything, and should be willing to sacrifice their life for it at any given moment. Citizens are not forced to obey the laws of Athens, but do it because they want to. They became the new ideal of the greek world. 2. Some comparisons that Pericles’ Funeral Oration has to the present day United States are the way they honor their soldiers. Like Athens, we appreciate our veterans by setting aside days to thank and notice what they’ve done for our country. Also, like Athens, we have a strong army, willing to fight for the United States. Another similarity is that we both are democracys, and have the same type of government where the people rule. We both have set laws that the citizens of each country abide by. Like the U.S., Athens is open to all immagrants that want to join their country, and treat everyone equaly and fair. 3. Pericles is asking the citizens of Athens to overall love everything about their counrty. He wanted them to be proud of Athen’s history and everyone who had given their lives for their country. He said they should respect and honor the soldiers. He also wanted them to not be afraid of dying for their country, and said to never decline the dangers of war. He also asks them to obey all the laws for Athens, and to contribute to the greater good of their country. Pericles’ Funeral Oration
1. In 431, Pericles’ gave his famous funereral oration after the Peloponnesian War had started against the Spartans. In his funeral oration, Pericles’ talks a lot about respecting and remembering the people that had died for Athens to survive. He states that it is the law to honor and appreciate these soldiers that have died for the citizens of Athens. He then goes into how the democratic constitution will benefit the Athenians, and how it will help them live better, free lives. He puts in that their country’s laws do not copy neighboring countries, but sets an example for them. Pericles goes into how freedom lets citizens do almost whatever they like. Also, he talks about how all Athenians should love their country more than anything, and should be willing to sacrifice their life for it at any given moment. Citizens are not forced to obey the laws of Athens, but do it because they want to. They became the new ideal of the greek world.
2. Some comparisons that Pericles’ Funeral Oration has to the present day United States are the way they honor their soldiers. Like Athens, we appreciate our veterans by setting aside days to thank and notice what they’ve done for our country. Also, like Athens, we have a strong army, willing to fight for the United States. Another similarity is that we both are democracys, and have the same type of government where the people rule. We both have set laws that the citizens of each country abide by. Like the U.S., Athens is open to all immagrants that want to join their country, and treat everyone equaly and fair.
3. Pericles is asking the citizens of Athens to overall love everything about their counrty. He wanted them to be proud of Athen’s history and everyone who had given their lives for their country. He said they should respect and honor the soldiers. He also wanted them to not be afraid of dying for their country, and said to never decline the dangers of war. He also asks them to obey all the laws for Athens, and to contribute to the greater good of their country.

]]> By: Kellyn M http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-717 Kellyn M Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:05:18 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-717 1. Summarize the basic ideas. You may use any resources you find. Any person who has lived in Athens has helped build upon the foundation that their ancestors layed down many years ago. The city is unique and does not copy its ways or law from the other cities. Most of the residents of this city try to be fair, not judgmental and try to always see things from a positive point of view. Although each Athenian may have their own imperfections, the greatness of the city as a whole hides the individual’s flaws. They are very fortunate and it is hard to beat the lifestyle of the Athenian, and while the city is diverse, they can still live together as one. Athens is strong and does not back down from things, and their military is powerful and plentiful and tries to overcome any boundaries it might come across. Though many were lost in the war, they were true Athenians, and their survivors must realize the city is still powerful and they need to keep it strong. The sepulchre holding the fallen soldiers bones is not solely for that reason, but so that the people remember that the soldiers may have fallen, yet they fell so that the city and its people would remain standing. The relatives of those slain in war are mourning because they lost something they loved dearly; however all of the soldiers die a phenomenal death for an even greater cause. The families and close friends of the fallen have a hard task before them, and they will deeply miss their loved ones, but they need to be proud of their men and the amazing things they accomplished before meeting their fate. While many have fallen and will be deeply missed, the Athenians need to remember that they did not fall in vain. Pericles was chosen to give this speech and he did a very fine job. He comforted those who were mourning over a lost loved one. He gave respect to every soldier, whether they survived the war, or was slain during it. Most importantly, he reassured everyone that Athens would remain strong and powerful. He was given an opportunity and not only did he take it, he did it to the best of his ability and achieved above and beyond of what anyone expected. 2. What comparisons to the modern United States of America can you make using this speech? Although Athens is nearly half way around the world and this speech Pericles’ Funeral Oration was given nearly two and a half millenniums ago, it still has similarities with America today. Alike with the ceremony at which Pericles’ gave his speech, many military ceremonies in the United States are packed with morning friends and families and some of the same rituals that take place in the funeral after the Peloponnesian War still occur at some ceremonies in America. Just as Pericles’ was chosen to give a speech, at many military funeral ceremonies in the United States, an important person is chosen to do the same in honor of those who gave their lives in war. Whether the speaker is a surviving war hero, or the president of America, the person giving the speech has been chosen for a good reason. The people who chose this individual believe in him and trust that he will give a good respectful speech to the military, and a reassuring word to those who lost a loved one. I believe that if someone who was at the funeral in 431 BC met with someone who went to a funeral in America today, they would realize that they are experiencing similar feelings of loss and depression. They would be able to relate to what has happened even though it was two completely different times and they are from different sides of the world. Although it would be two completely different people, their emotions would be almost the same because no matter whom it is and how emotionally strong they are, losing someone you love is still devastating. Pericles was given the opportunity to give a speech to all of Athens and he took it and did a phenomenal job both honoring those who fell and the other men who took part in the war, and reassuring those who felt that Athens was crumbling around them. Although the speech is not extensive, you can still find out quite a lot from a little about the city of Athens and realize that it is quite alike with the modern United States of America. 3. What is Pericles’ asking of each Athenian citizen? Pericles is asking each Athenian to respect the people who built their city up. Whether it is the military, or one’s own ancestors, anyone who has helped Athens in the least bit by being a woman at the bakery, or someone who is putting their life at stake daily by being a firefighter both deserve an equal amount of honor and respect. The city has grown to be strong and unified and although they have just suffered a great loss everyone who still lives must continue to help build it up and make it become more powerful. While many Athenians felt like they were living on a crumbling rock, Pericles challenged them to strive to see how strong they really are, like a firm foundation. The families and close friends of those who fell might be in depression, but really they should be taking pride in the fact that their loved ones died a great, purposeful death. They sacrificed their lives for what they believed in and while the city can’t see it now, it will bring rewards. Those who are morning should rejoice in what great acts of heroism the close friends and family members have done. Instead of thinking about how much they have lost, the need to focus on how supportive and powerful Athens would be for them to help them through the hard times. The brave men who fought in the war did not back down from danger or risks, and Pericles asks the rest of Athens to do the same. He wants them to look life in the face and make the most of it, and while doing that, their city will become revived and ready to take on anything that comes at it. They should be unwavering in their commitment to Athens and strive to make it more powerful and steadfast. Pericles is not asking much of the Athenians, but the few things that he is asking are easy tasks and will benefit Athens and its people. He wants everyone to remember the soldiers and remember why they were fighting. They should remember that Athens is strong and powerful and it will remain that way. Most of all, they should remember what they need to do to rebuild Athens and make it a better place. 1. Summarize the basic ideas. You may use any resources you find.
Any person who has lived in Athens has helped build upon the foundation that their ancestors layed down many years ago. The city is unique and does not copy its ways or law from the other cities. Most of the residents of this city try to be fair, not judgmental and try to always see things from a positive point of view. Although each Athenian may have their own imperfections, the greatness of the city as a whole hides the individual’s flaws. They are very fortunate and it is hard to beat the lifestyle of the Athenian, and while the city is diverse, they can still live together as one.
Athens is strong and does not back down from things, and their military is powerful and plentiful and tries to overcome any boundaries it might come across. Though many were lost in the war, they were true Athenians, and their survivors must realize the city is still powerful and they need to keep it strong. The sepulchre holding the fallen soldiers bones is not solely for that reason, but so that the people remember that the soldiers may have fallen, yet they fell so that the city and its people would remain standing.
The relatives of those slain in war are mourning because they lost something they loved dearly; however all of the soldiers die a phenomenal death for an even greater cause. The families and close friends of the fallen have a hard task before them, and they will deeply miss their loved ones, but they need to be proud of their men and the amazing things they accomplished before meeting their fate. While many have fallen and will be deeply missed, the Athenians need to remember that they did not fall in vain.
Pericles was chosen to give this speech and he did a very fine job. He comforted those who were mourning over a lost loved one. He gave respect to every soldier, whether they survived the war, or was slain during it. Most importantly, he reassured everyone that Athens would remain strong and powerful. He was given an opportunity and not only did he take it, he did it to the best of his ability and achieved above and beyond of what anyone expected.

2. What comparisons to the modern United States of America can you make using this speech?
Although Athens is nearly half way around the world and this speech Pericles’ Funeral Oration was given nearly two and a half millenniums ago, it still has similarities with America today. Alike with the ceremony at which Pericles’ gave his speech, many military ceremonies in the United States are packed with morning friends and families and some of the same rituals that take place in the funeral after the Peloponnesian War still occur at some ceremonies in America.
Just as Pericles’ was chosen to give a speech, at many military funeral ceremonies in the United States, an important person is chosen to do the same in honor of those who gave their lives in war. Whether the speaker is a surviving war hero, or the president of America, the person giving the speech has been chosen for a good reason. The people who chose this individual believe in him and trust that he will give a good respectful speech to the military, and a reassuring word to those who lost a loved one.
I believe that if someone who was at the funeral in 431 BC met with someone who went to a funeral in America today, they would realize that they are experiencing similar feelings of loss and depression. They would be able to relate to what has happened even though it was two completely different times and they are from different sides of the world. Although it would be two completely different people, their emotions would be almost the same because no matter whom it is and how emotionally strong they are, losing someone you love is still devastating.
Pericles was given the opportunity to give a speech to all of Athens and he took it and did a phenomenal job both honoring those who fell and the other men who took part in the war, and reassuring those who felt that Athens was crumbling around them. Although the speech is not extensive, you can still find out quite a lot from a little about the city of Athens and realize that it is quite alike with the modern United States of America.

3. What is Pericles’ asking of each Athenian citizen?
Pericles is asking each Athenian to respect the people who built their city up. Whether it is the military, or one’s own ancestors, anyone who has helped Athens in the least bit by being a woman at the bakery, or someone who is putting their life at stake daily by being a firefighter both deserve an equal amount of honor and respect. The city has grown to be strong and unified and although they have just suffered a great loss everyone who still lives must continue to help build it up and make it become more powerful.
While many Athenians felt like they were living on a crumbling rock, Pericles challenged them to strive to see how strong they really are, like a firm foundation. The families and close friends of those who fell might be in depression, but really they should be taking pride in the fact that their loved ones died a great, purposeful death. They sacrificed their lives for what they believed in and while the city can’t see it now, it will bring rewards. Those who are morning should rejoice in what great acts of heroism the close friends and family members have done. Instead of thinking about how much they have lost, the need to focus on how supportive and powerful Athens would be for them to help them through the hard times.
The brave men who fought in the war did not back down from danger or risks, and Pericles asks the rest of Athens to do the same. He wants them to look life in the face and make the most of it, and while doing that, their city will become revived and ready to take on anything that comes at it. They should be unwavering in their commitment to Athens and strive to make it more powerful and steadfast.
Pericles is not asking much of the Athenians, but the few things that he is asking are easy tasks and will benefit Athens and its people. He wants everyone to remember the soldiers and remember why they were fighting. They should remember that Athens is strong and powerful and it will remain that way. Most of all, they should remember what they need to do to rebuild Athens and make it a better place.

]]> By: Heather G. http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-715 Heather G. Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:30:09 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-715 1. Pericles begins his speech by praising the custom of the public funeral held for the people that died in the war, but he also criticizes the purpose of the speech saying that the "reputations of many brave men" should "not be imperiled in the mouth of a single individual". He explains that the speaker of the oration has to satisfy the people who died during the war by magnifying what they have done without allowing the audience to become jealous or suspect exaggeration. Later in the speech Pericles praises the dead, not by discussing Athens' past ancestors' achievements, but by glorifying the city they died for. He then goes on to talk about the greatness of Athens and praise the dead Athenians. He explains that only the heroism of these people and others like them have made the city so great. He then advises the audience to live up to the standards that were set by the deceased."So died these men as becomes Athenians. You, their survivors, must determine as unaltering a resolution in the field, though you may pray that it have a happier outcome. Pericles speech is ended with a short epilogue. He reminds the audience of the difficulty of speaking over the dead. 2. By reading Pericles' speech, you see that the United States uses history to form our government. In the speech, Pericles talks about Athens having a democracy. Somebody had to be chosen to read a speech for the funeral and the Athenian citizens voted. This shows that the people are involved in ruling the government and they are able to make their own decisions about how they want to be governed. Athens has a justice system and the government creates laws for the people to follow. They have a constitution, just like the United States. The people make sure that their country isn't a follower, but instead a leader. They rule their city the way they think is best instead of doing what everyone else is. The Athenians also have individual freedom. They are allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn't break any of the laws. The Unites States is the same way. I can easily say or do anything i want as long as I'm not endangering anybody around me. When the people do put others in danger, there are consequences that they have to face. 3. Pericles asks each Athenian citizen to live up to the standards that were set by the people that died in the Peloponessian War. 1. Pericles begins his speech by praising the custom of the public funeral held for the people that died in the war, but he also criticizes the purpose of the speech saying that the “reputations of many brave men” should “not be imperiled in the mouth of a single individual”. He explains that the speaker of the oration has to satisfy the people who died during the war by magnifying what they have done without allowing the audience to become jealous or suspect exaggeration.
Later in the speech Pericles praises the dead, not by discussing Athens’ past ancestors’ achievements, but by glorifying the city they died for. He then goes on to talk about the greatness of Athens and praise the dead Athenians. He explains that only the heroism of these people and others like them have made the city so great.
He then advises the audience to live up to the standards that were set by the deceased.”So died these men as becomes Athenians. You, their survivors, must determine as unaltering a resolution in the field, though you may pray that it have a happier outcome.
Pericles speech is ended with a short epilogue. He reminds the audience of the difficulty of speaking over the dead.

2. By reading Pericles’ speech, you see that the United States uses history to form our government. In the speech, Pericles talks about Athens having a democracy. Somebody had to be chosen to read a speech for the funeral and the Athenian citizens voted. This shows that the people are involved in ruling the government and they are able to make their own decisions about how they want to be governed.
Athens has a justice system and the government creates laws for the people to follow. They have a constitution, just like the United States. The people make sure that their country isn’t a follower, but instead a leader. They rule their city the way they think is best instead of doing what everyone else is.
The Athenians also have individual freedom. They are allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn’t break any of the laws. The Unites States is the same way. I can easily say or do anything i want as long as I’m not endangering anybody around me. When the people do put others in danger, there are consequences that they have to face.

3. Pericles asks each Athenian citizen to live up to the standards that were set by the people that died in the Peloponessian War.

]]> By: Carla W. http://henricoenglish.com/cross/2009/07/05/english-8-summer-reading-pericles-responses/comment-page-1/#comment-714 Carla W. Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:43:10 +0000 http://henricoenglish.com/cross/?p=117#comment-714 1. Summarize the basic ideas. You may use any resources you find. Pericles discusses the glory of Athens and the vanity of the Athenians. It’s a culture that glorifies men; people attempt to find meaning through the creation of manmade institutions like the Athenian city-state. Pericles is making people feel good about them self and takes the emotion of patriotism. Then he starts talking about the honor it is to be a dead soldier and what you have gained. He is talking about how men are nobly fought and nobly died. He wanted to make it clear that there is much more at stake here than people realize. He pointed out that some men had there faults, but redeemed themselves and done a service to make them heroes. Pericles expressed about the past of the Athens, and about how there ancestors shaped today. There ancestors guided them to do all of those activities, and they still do it. The speech was a custom passed on and the tradition will continue. 2. What comparisons to the modern day United States of America can you make using this speech? During Pericles’ time any service performed for the good of the state was noble, and any man, no matter their past, could become a hero by dying in battle. It doesn’t matter what you have done previously you can still be noble by dying in battle. In the United States of America if you do a crime it is not as easily forgiven even if you do die in battle. This is the equivalent of saying that if Sahel Kazemi, who murdered Steve McNair, retired Tennessee Titans quarterback, the army and died in Iraq. She would be disburdened from her crimes. It’s strange that Greek humanists would commonly accept this, but Americans wouldn’t. Also, the Athenians govern by democracy. The United States of America also relies on democracy to run our government. The only difference is that the Athens’ democracy only involves men. In America, both man and woman can be involved with democracy. 3. What is Pericles asking of each Athenian citizen? The Athenians liked to believe they were the noblest people in Greece, and by affirming this belief, Pericles engages himself to his audience while demanding that they sacrifice their individuality and happiness to the state. Pericles persuaded the Greeks that the city of Athens must be defended at all costs by exploring the glory of the city’s culture and government, and by demanding further, and greater, sacrifice from the Athenians. 1. Summarize the basic ideas. You may use any resources you find.

Pericles discusses the glory of Athens and the vanity of the Athenians. It’s a culture that glorifies men; people attempt to find meaning through the creation of manmade institutions like the Athenian city-state. Pericles is making people feel good about them self and takes the emotion of patriotism. Then he starts talking about the honor it is to be a dead soldier and what you have gained. He is talking about how men are nobly fought and nobly died. He wanted to make it clear that there is much more at stake here than people realize. He pointed out that some men had there faults, but redeemed themselves and done a service to make them heroes.
Pericles expressed about the past of the Athens, and about how there ancestors shaped today. There ancestors guided them to do all of those activities, and they still do it. The speech was a custom passed on and the tradition will continue.

2. What comparisons to the modern day United States of America can you make using this speech?

During Pericles’ time any service performed for the good of the state was noble, and any man, no matter their past, could become a hero by dying in battle. It doesn’t matter what you have done previously you can still be noble by dying in battle. In the United States of America if you do a crime it is not as easily forgiven even if you do die in battle. This is the equivalent of saying that if Sahel Kazemi, who murdered Steve McNair, retired Tennessee Titans quarterback, the army and died in Iraq. She would be disburdened from her crimes. It’s strange that Greek humanists would commonly accept this, but Americans wouldn’t.
Also, the Athenians govern by democracy. The United States of America also relies on democracy to run our government. The only difference is that the Athens’ democracy only involves men. In America, both man and woman can be involved with democracy.

3. What is Pericles asking of each Athenian citizen?

The Athenians liked to believe they were the noblest people in Greece, and by affirming this belief, Pericles engages himself to his audience while demanding that they sacrifice their individuality and happiness to the state. Pericles persuaded the Greeks that the city of Athens must be defended at all costs by exploring the glory of the city’s culture and government, and by demanding further, and greater, sacrifice from the Athenians.

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